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Date: 2008-03-03 12:51 am (UTC)I am SO not to blame! Gah! /glares at
I can't STAND mpreg. And for the record, IMHO, it's *all* crack.
That said, someone did a genderfuck (another cliche I can't stand) Don/Charlie where some CalSci experiment turned Charlie into a woman. Before they turned him back to a man apparently he got pregnant. I ran screaming, but try looking at